IDIOT FANS, BAD FANSUBBERS, AND DBZ IN THE UNITED STATES
(REVISED: "FANSUBBERS AND IDIOT FANS: THE HELL SPAWN OF
ANIME")
Written: 7 February 2000 (revised 28 June 2001)
Author: Dash
NOTE: This isn't directed at ALL fansubbers. There are some out
there who actually care about the series and do their damndest to
supply us with good translations. This is mostly to Anime Labs
and anyone else who thinks it's "cool" to throw in
random swearing for absolutely no reason. More recently, it would
also be directed at digisubbers who are more concerned with being
the first one to put out the episode, regardless of the quality.
SECOND NOTE: I haven't completely rewritten this editorial, so
certain things are going to be outdated now. Just remember that
this was originally written over a year ago.
Yes, that's right. Fansubbers and idiot fans are, in my opinion,
two of the major forces holding back anime in the States.
Fansubbers mar a script because they think it will look
"cool," and idiot fans seem to think they represent the
majority, when in reality, most of us would rather die than have
their IQ, which is about the equivalent of that of a brick.
Idiot fans...what can I say? You E-mail FUNimation or other anime
companies with crap like "u sux0rz ur show iz gay mayk it
gud" and you expect this to change things? FUNimation is not
going to release a true-to-the-original Dragon Ball Z dub in the
United States because some imbecile from Michigan (not to insult
people from Michigan, that's just the first place that came to
mind) calls their job "gay," "retarted," or
"<insert juvenile comment here>." It just doesn't
work that way. Besides that, do you think anyone's going to read
that trash? Why do you think E-mail programs come with delete
buttons? For fun? I admit, I've been angry at FUNimation's
response to E-mail in the past (or rather, lack thereof), but I
cannot honestly say that I wouldn't be deleting mail by the
hundreds if I were in their position. No one wants to read
"ur stoopet" from some lackwit in Vermont (see Michigan
comment).
Now, don't get me wrong. There is absolutely nothing wrong with
sending in your opinion to someone, as long as it's a well
thought-out and relevant opinion. I can't say I enjoy watching
FUNimation butcher the show, but that's no reason to reduce
myself to the level of a first grader and use broken English as a
means of getting my point across. If you're going to write a
company, do it thoughtfully.
If you've noticed, in some of the recent articles about DBZ, the
most popular examples of fans of the original show are E-mails
from these very people. Mindless rubes who E-mail FUNimation with
"ur stoopet n amarikun dbz suxz u shud jus cel it 2 sum1 hu
kan du a gud job" get their E-mail pubished because of a
shortage of any better examples. I don't know about you, but I
don't want to be represented by a child who couldn't be out of
third grade, and who has most likely never even SEEN the Japanese
Dragon Ball, but likes to say they have because it makes them
"look cool" or something. If FUNimation is going to
have my shared opinion from someone other than myself, it sure as
hell better be well presented.
And then there are people who write out long, well-written mails
that are absolutely terrible, full of horrible comments and
personal attacks. Listen. FUNimation (or any other company) is
made up of PEOPLE. They make mistakes. I disagree with a lot of
the things they do to the dub and I consider it a mistake, but
they don't deserve most of the stuff they get. If you're going to
write an E-mail, fill it with CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. People
aren't exactly anxious to please people who make cruel personal
attacks on them.
You've gotten fans of the Japanese Dragon Ball nothing but
disdain, and perhaps some laughs from people who wonder how
someone could be so stupid.
Now on to fansubbers, the hypocritical translators of many
popular anime. Although I rely on fansubbers for the Japanese
Dragon Ball, that does not mean I enjoy what they put out. It's
the best thing available, since I know very little Japanese, but
overall, I hate fansubs.
As I said above, fansubbers are hypocrites. Want an explanation?
Here you go. Fansubbers' general philosophy is usually to keep
the show in its original form. Obviously, there are some who are
only in it for the money (Anime Labs comes to mind...), but most
fansubbers I've found just want to keep the show intact. Why
then, do they find it necessary to intentionally garble the
translation? "Let's keep the show in its original form...
oh, but throw in 'fuck' here where Vegeta speaks. It'll look cool
that way." Even the truest fansubs I've found (keeping in
mind that I can barely tell usually, because as you already know,
I know very little Japanese) will sometimes overexaggerate swear
words. Now, understand that in some shows, it can actually be
appropriate to subtitle "kuso" as "shit." DBZ
isn't one of those shows. About as bad as they'll ever get is
"damn."
One little side note is that at NO TIME in ALL of Dragon Ball, is
the phrase "Fuck you" or the word itself,
"Fuck," used at all, to the best of my knowledge.
Unless you're fluent in Japanese and hear the Japanese word for
"fuck," never trust a subtitle that has the word in it
(and I challenge you to look for it, since there IS no Japanese
word for "fuck"). I've noticed that many times, the
phrase will be added in at the end of a long line of dialogue.
They seem to think that since someone speaks for so long, and is
in such a situation, we'll just automatically stomach this extra
swearing. Vegeta's arrival in movie 13 comes to mind now. God
only knows what's actually said, but the subtitle on my movie 13
goes something like this: "You fucking bastard! You dare to
destroy my house? FUCK YOU!!" "Bastard," maybe.
"Fucking," or "FUCK YOU!!!"? Definitely not.
I'm truly insulted that someone could believe I'd so blindly
follow them, as if they're the god of the Japanese language. If I
had the knowledge of Japanese, the means to do so, and FUNimation
wasn't doing subbed DVDs, I'd be tempted to accurately fansub
Dragon Ball for everyone. Thank god for Daimao and FUNimation's
DVDs...
The following has been added as of June 28, 2001.
Lastly, we've got DBZ in the United States. Let's face it,
people. It's time to reflect what a lot of others have already
said: DBZ in the US is not going to get any better. Its best
chance was with season 3. It sucked, it ended. There were rumors
out there that season 4 just might be better. Guess what? It
wasn't. People can bitch and bitch about the DBZ dub, but it's
not going anywhere. As Chris Psaros said: Even if they do
suddenly fix it for season 5, it'll be too little too late. DBZ
is gone. FUNimation isn't ever going to redub it and no one else
ever will, either. Go buy the DVDs FUNimation has given us,
because aside from only being three episodes a disc, they're
wonderful.
So what have we got left? Well, we've apparently gotten through
to FUNimation finally, because Dragon Ball is using the original
music, and according to reports I've heard, the translations are
pretty accurate. And no one, NO ONE with an Internet connection
has any right to complain about voices. Why? Because WE WERE
GIVEN THE CHANCE TO CHOOSE THEM. I have to admit, I'm actually
looking forward to seeing the Dragon Ball dub. Their English
versions of the opening and closing themes are great and they
seem to be bending over backwards to try to please the fans. Even
if you dislike the dub that comes out of all this, you've gotta
give them some extra points for effort.
All of these issues can really be summed up in a few words,
though: It's just a TV show. No need for fans to go insane in
their E-mails. No need for fansubbers to try to make it more
"adult" in their translations (and, of course,
succeeding only in making it more juvenile... I swear to Allah,
Anime Labs must be run by a bunch of 13 year old boys). No need
to get so worked up about FUNimation's dub. It's there to
entertain, and my problems with the DBZ dub are all things that,
in my view, are just hindrances to the entertainment factor. So
let's all just step back, take a deep breath, and rethink whether
some of these things we do are really worth it.